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Sealer advice sought
owataqt	01-01-2010 09:27:39
My Gallery Member Posts: 9 Joined: 12-20-2007	Hello everyone, Wishing everyone a prosperous and amazing New Year!!! Question for ya'll, Is their one sealer over the other you prefer to use. We typically use sealers that have an awful smell and serious fumes. Lately our clients are requesting sealers with no smell or fumes. What do you all use when you must seal an already opened and running business? Or homeowner that suffers from morning sickness LOL, and you know how that goes?? Help a sistah out.. What do you all use? A rolled or sprayed Sealer????

Dr"J"	01-01-2010 11:44:36
My Gallery Member Posts: 330 Joined: --	If you are not trying to POP colour in a floor I use a water-based sealer for interior surfaces. If they are very thrifty customers, it is an acrylic. If they want better I use a water based epoxy. Then I let them put the wax on. Both types of sealer I roll on.

MC	01-01-2010 17:23:03
My Gallery Member Posts: 1656 Joined: 05-20-2007	Dr J. Next time you use a wb acrylic on a smooth floor, try using a soft push broom to apply the sealer. We used to roll them on but I never liked the results. We spray a light mist in a small section and work it in with the broom. It leaves a very smooth finish and takes half the time. Maybe you guys are better than me with rollers but I hate using them

Dr"J"	01-02-2010 08:51:38
My Gallery Member Posts: 330 Joined: --	Cool..Today I learnt something! it is a good day! Thanks for the idea!

owataqt	01-02-2010 09:28:24
My Gallery Member Posts: 9 Joined: 12-20-2007	Okay thanks.. but to clarify... a waterbased sealer over a stamped overlay.. the waterbased sealer, acrylic has less smell.. then say.. lusterseal brickform.. etc Also names.. brand names would be super helpful.. What brands do you use..?? Thanks again so much

owataqt	01-02-2010 09:30:25
My Gallery Member Posts: 9 Joined: 12-20-2007	QUOTE MC, 2010-01-01 17:23:03 Dr J. Next time you use a wb acrylic on a smooth floor, try using a soft push broom to apply the sealer. We used to roll them on but I never liked the results. We spray a light mist in a small section and work it in with the broom. It leaves a very smooth finish and takes half the time. Maybe you guys are better than me with rollers but I hate using them What brand name sealers do you use in commercial settings.. or for homeowners who dont want the strong smelling sealers?? Name brand sealers to purchase would be great if you could share the names with me.. Thanks bunches

hopper#11	01-05-2010 09:15:54
Member Posts: 109 Joined: 12-03-2007	could name brands all day were ever you are buying your solvent base just ask them for a waterbase they should carry it. But just to mention one that is pretty easy to trackdown euclid lustershield 20- or 30. There are many others it may b limmited to your area so try untill you find one that works. For your commercial customers water based will work but try to sell them on 100% epoxies or PAP prett good add on for Res. to

Lindy A.	01-05-2010 10:28:12
Member Posts: 3372 Joined: 05-11-2009	A water based epoxy, waterborne urethane, or water based acrylic are NOT going to pass the toughest test of all "TIME" on commercial use surfaces. They are the lowest rung on the performance/longevity/shielding ladder when it comes to wear/abrasion resistance and fall substantially short in relation to a great many other physical properties as well (stain, chemical, heat, etc. resistances) necessary for shielding and survival when subjected to continuous foot, vehicle, or material handling equipment traffic (metal carts for stocking, hard tire dollies, forklifts, etc). Survival of these waterborne sealers depend on a great dedication to costly/routine/ongoing waxing regime (which rarely does any janitorial staff ever continue to follow through on; resulting in the wearing off of this thin mil sealer, eventually ghost imaging of original cementitious substrate below, and valuable loss of use time while waxing/stripping/rewaxing is performed). Higher performing alternatives... Good ... 100% solids industrial/commercial flooring Epoxy (meets FDA/USDA sanitary surfacing criteria and doesn't have lingering/toxic/contamitive odor; requires temperatures of 55 or above to apply, approximately 8-12 hours dry time/24 hours before returning to commercial surfacing use; high build sealer) Better ... Aliphatic moisture cured Urethane (frequently used in warehouse/distribution centers or areas that have PLENTY of ventilation; odors are toxic, lingering, contamitive; requires temperatures of 45 or above to apply, approximately 6-10 hours dry time per coat; short window of time for application of additional coats; 24-48 hours before returning to commercial use. Best/Utmost ... Polyaspartic Aliphatic Polyurea/PAP (meet FDA/USDA sanitary surfacing criteria, doesn't have lingering/toxic/contamitive odor; can be applied in temperatures as low as -30F/minus 30F; normal dry time per coat 10-15 minutes after which time you can apply 2nd coat; rapid cure out assures returning the surface to use in 1 day; does not require any type of waxing regime which saves property owner a great deal of money over a years time when it comes to floor maintenance budgets; is by far the top run on the ladder in relation to unsurpassed wear/abrasion resistance. Also has the highest degree of stain, chemical, and heat resistance; it will maintain its optical/clear clarity and shine on interior or exterior surfaces and will not white/fog out as other types of sealers are prone to doing when they are subjected to continuous moist/wet environments (shower stalls, custom countertops with integral sinks/drainboards, wet sauna rooms, submersion in "fresh" water features, etc.). There are, as another poster stated, far too many brand names of the above to list. Your focus should be on the type of resinous sealer and the physical properties of them in relation to the end use of the surface and the elements it will be routinely exposed/subjected to. Using the best sealer available to shield/protect your decorative concrete surface creations (based on the previous stated factors) will pay off in customer satisfaction rate and referrals (using a low resin content, low mil build, waterbased sealer that depends on regular/routine dedication to waxing, will come back to haunt you in a short period of time when it comes to commercial surfaces IMO based on 30 years of specializing in the concrete resurfacing industry. If you have any further questions/concerns about sealers, you can continue this line of post or drop me a PM, email, or give me a call at your convenience. Happy trails ... may all your decorative concrete creations be successful, reaping you the rewards of a job well done along with a never ending supply of highly sought after referrals. Lindy A.

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